Is it really a "meta shake-up"?

REAL meta shake-up will be only after they remove TS and LA from the game. Even nerfing its DMG by 90% would still not change that everyone is playing it, because with HH/MB you have more than enough DMG.
However if we pretend those 2 skills dont exist and the meta will change quite a lot.

Delayed gem info is a big issue. The streamers don't dare to go for new leaguestarters in fear of messing up their economy unless they have the info(often the case even if they have the info unless it is something really clearly broken stuff). The meta shakeup might happen later in the league but for the leaguestarters it is already too late I fear. At least for the vast majority of the people that rely on others to make their builds xD

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arknath wrote:

Delayed gem info is a big issue. The streamers don't dare to go for new leaguestarters in fear of messing up their economy unless they have the info(often the case even if they have the info unless it is something really clearly broken stuff). The meta shakeup might happen later in the league but for the leaguestarters it is already too late I fear. At least for the vast majority of the people that rely on others to make their builds xD

I mean, there are respectable and amazing streamers and content creators, that play different off-meta builds, try new things etc, such as MbXtreme, Mathil, Aero, Lighty, etc.

And then you have the meta-slave ''egoistical'' streamers that just want to play the most overpowered skill in order to dominate the economy such as Tuna, Grimro, Snoe, etc (the LA/TS abusers basically).

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Aynix wrote:

And who do you think made build you play? Santa Claus? It was made by "PoE community" for people like you who cant make one themselves so they copy build from internet.

Me obviously. I never had any use for build guides or streamers but go on making assumptions.

Meta shake-up is an illusion, exile. All these people shouting 'where build diversity?' are the ones just playing lightning arrow again. The people that try something new (new as in there hasn't been made a build guide for them), are actually very rare. Literally every single of my guilies just copies builds every time, they're shocked and confused when they see I play Flameblast totems, CA Ballistas or Burning arrow, aka things every tuber and his mom has not repeated the same build guide for.
So yes I genuinely think only a small % of us really look forward playing with new gems.

It isn't a meta shake up.

Because these changes still cause the same problem POE has had for years.

Stale and dull leveling gameplay, which causes 75% of the player base to drop off in the first 4 weeks.

the VAST majority of players will never make it to the Labyrinth enough times to discover much in the way of new builds.

The power loss will be felt heavily by the lower 75% of the player base too, because they level up the slowest.

reducing their damage and extending the core game is akin to torture for many.

So they quit.

And then a very small number of people invest a lot of time, for very little return in figuring it all out for those masses for the next league.

but at least it's still better than D4.

I played trauma support Glacial Hammer last league and the playstyle was godawful and it wasn't even that strong considering it needed Heatshiver and Yoke before it started really shining. It absolutely was a "viable" new build and relatively inexpensive but honestly it was trash and I would never touch it again.

Skills need to be at the power level and fun level of projectile skills. A lot of the transfigured gems so far are "cyclone does 30% more damage but moves 90% slower." Ah cool a worthless skill that is still worthless and now is more inconvenient to boot. Cleave gives rage. Still unusable when you can equip Splitting Steel and do 20x the single target damage.

Blade Vortex Blade Blast nova looks like it could be really fun with Astral Projector. We'll see.

meta shakeup? like why?

what changed that would make Tornado Shot as attractive/efficient as lets say Ground Slam? nothing.

this patch is a SIGNIFICANT nerf to player power, most likely the biggest one in POE's history

and people are smiling because their fav skill got a better quality.

it is amazing how oblivious most of people here are to the scope of damage butchering this patch is.

3 enchants, alt-qual skill, all-qual supports (that REALLY made a difference if you cared enough to use proper ones), all-qual supporting SKILLS

all replaced with trans gems and quality that is like 30% power of a good enchant.

but 'muh falling zombie!' and it is all good? GGG nailed this nerf round, 10/10

To think that the day would come where i have to agree with Sidtherat on something, god what has become of this game.

I don't really want to say anything yet when there are still so many trans gems missing but unless there are a bunch of massive outliers this is probably the biggest nerf to melee in recent times.
Boneshatter murdered, Molten Strike likely murdered unless we get +2 projectile quality, no more divergent trauma. All the other helm and boot enchants, all the alt quality support gems which were huge for melee builds and ofc we still have to use totems for the real melee experience.

Nevermind TS being as lively as ever it's melee that got shafted the most, as always. 10% melee players? I kinda expect it to go down to 1% this league with most of them being flickerstrike.

I really don't understand what this company is doing. Unless they are purposefully aiming at pissing of the playerbase of POE1 to hopefully push them towards POE2 this just doesn't make any sense.

it's not a meta shake up at all, it's just that everything is nerfed

this will be yet another tornado shot, explosive arrow, hexblast, srs, spark league

most of the transfigured gems are very disappointing

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leto2626 wrote:

Meta shake-up is an illusion, exile. All these people shouting 'where build diversity?' are the ones just playing lightning arrow again. The people that try something new (new as in there hasn't been made a build guide for them), are actually very rare. Literally every single of my guilies just copies builds every time, they're shocked and confused when they see I play Flameblast totems, CA Ballistas or Burning arrow, aka things every tuber and his mom has not repeated the same build guide for.
So yes I genuinely think only a small % of us really look forward playing with new gems.

ggg hates that though. they nerfed shattering steel, dark pact, explosive concoction, divine ire and many more non-meta skills. why? we'll never know