Feedback and Suggestions (Path of Exile 1) - Trade in PoE is not good and takes away from immersion - Forum

" cursorTarget wrote: PoE Live Search will be transformed into PoE Instant Buyout in case of marketplace or PoE Fake Auctioners in case of AH. Expect another wave of crying about 0.1% of nolifing streamers / abusers which captured / manipulate the market and not allowing to buy the items for the fair price. Nobody would cry Because -if that happens - the league would die EVEN FASTER than current Necro did. And GGG would be forced to do something. Auctioneer House - is a MUST! 'POE2' is not 'POE1 2.0'! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3614313	Posted by SilverWF#6383 on May 26, 2024, 3:33:58 PM Quote this Post
" ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote: How do so many people fail to realize that an instant buyout one click trade system is ONLY good for large organized groups? That it instantly means every single item of even moderate rarity is permanently pricefixed where players outside of the top 1% have no possible chance of obtaining them and those who can are going to pay FAR more than they pay right now? Absolutely WRONG statement. Do you even know why? Because, as you said, the manual trading IS CANCER, so if it would be automated and would NOT require your involvement in the process, everyone... EVERYONE would start selling their stuff. The amount of goods would be increased in hundreds of times - you don' need to contact with buyer, you don't need to be online. Just set to selling and forget. NO ANY large groups would be even remotely able to buy EVERYTHING from such BIG market. Otherwise, finally, GGG would be FORCED to do something with bots, farming currency. Auctioneer House - is a MUST! 'POE2' is not 'POE1 2.0'! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3614313 Last edited by SilverWF#6383 on May 26, 2024, 3:41:02 PM	Posted by SilverWF#6383 on May 26, 2024, 3:39:57 PM Quote this Post
" SilverWF wrote: " ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote: How do so many people fail to realize that an instant buyout one click trade system is ONLY good for large organized groups? That it instantly means every single item of even moderate rarity is permanently pricefixed where players outside of the top 1% have no possible chance of obtaining them and those who can are going to pay FAR more than they pay right now? Absolutely WRONG statement. Do you even know why? Because, as you said, the manual trading IS CANCER, so if it would be automated and would NOT require your involvement in the process, everyone... EVERYONE would start selling their stuff. The amount of goods would be increased in hundreds of times - you don' need to contact with buyer, you don't need to be online. Just set to selling and forget. NO ANY large groups would be even remotely able to buy EVERYTHING from such BIG market. Otherwise, finally, GGG would be FORCED to do something with bots, farming currency. very WRONG. Can you explain how number of non-eq items, for example, veiled orbs would “increase in hundreds”? Because that part of the market would be cornered. Biggest compliments for my crafted items - "bs, they must have been RMT'ed" I'm disabled, I have rare case of semperduravera, so I can write things that may look rude, but it is because of disability - I'm forced to tell truth using words you may not like.	Posted by Nomancs#6176 on May 26, 2024, 5:01:01 PM Quote this Post
With auto buy it would be even easier for individuals to flip and entire market to a higher price. Even items with a high quantity on market can be price changed or entirely bought out almost instantly and other games with a AH/instant buy have proven that many times. If they ever add instant trade to Poe 1 they should limit the amount of trades you can do every day and also be more strict about the (ab)use of multi accounts. Flames and madness. I'm so glad I didn't miss the fun.	Posted by Pashid#4643 on May 26, 2024, 5:12:28 PM Quote this Post
" Nomancs wrote: " SilverWF wrote: " ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote: How do so many people fail to realize that an instant buyout one click trade system is ONLY good for large organized groups? That it instantly means every single item of even moderate rarity is permanently pricefixed where players outside of the top 1% have no possible chance of obtaining them and those who can are going to pay FAR more than they pay right now? Absolutely WRONG statement. Do you even know why? Because, as you said, the manual trading IS CANCER, so if it would be automated and would NOT require your involvement in the process, everyone... EVERYONE would start selling their stuff. The amount of goods would be increased in hundreds of times - you don' need to contact with buyer, you don't need to be online. Just set to selling and forget. NO ANY large groups would be even remotely able to buy EVERYTHING from such BIG market. Otherwise, finally, GGG would be FORCED to do something with bots, farming currency. very WRONG. Can you explain how number of non-eq items, for example, veiled orbs would “increase in hundreds”? Because that part of the market would be cornered. Fk veiled orbs: 1. They all come from bots 2. Typical casual would never even touch it 3. GGG should finally fix their economy and crafting, but not add another crazy crafting items, which are accessible for RMTers or nolifers only. Auctioneer House - is a MUST! 'POE2' is not 'POE1 2.0'! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3614313	Posted by SilverWF#6383 on May 26, 2024, 5:24:04 PM Quote this Post
" Pashid wrote: If they ever add instant trade to Poe 1 they should limit the amount of trades you can do every day and also be more strict about the (ab)use of multi accounts. Or, maybe, just maybe, finally start checking - where are all that TONS of mirrors are coming from? If you able to buy expensive items in huge bulks - where did you get all your currency? farmed by your own hands? lol Auctioneer House - is a MUST! 'POE2' is not 'POE1 2.0'! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3614313 Last edited by SilverWF#6383 on May 26, 2024, 5:27:04 PM	Posted by SilverWF#6383 on May 26, 2024, 5:25:06 PM Quote this Post
" SilverWF wrote: Fk veiled orbs: 1. They all come from bots 2. Typical casual would never even touch it 3. GGG should finally fix their economy and crafting, but not add another crazy crafting items, which are accessible for RMTers or nolifers only. So, you don’t care about consequences, ignore arguments and you just want everything NOW. I will tell you a secret - game is not and should never be balanced around casuals. Biggest compliments for my crafted items - "bs, they must have been RMT'ed" I'm disabled, I have rare case of semperduravera, so I can write things that may look rude, but it is because of disability - I'm forced to tell truth using words you may not like.	Posted by Nomancs#6176 on May 27, 2024, 1:24:11 AM Quote this Post
Gee, I wonder what kind of technology it would take to let a buyer join a seller's hideout, gain access to his/her stash (showing only items listed) and buy whatever item, in exchange for the stipulated currency, like ritual? Like Expedition NPCs? You click on an item, which is transferred to buyer's stash, and have the stipulated currency transferred to the seller's stash? Must be alien tech for sure. Trade doesn't need to be automated, but it can be much better than what it is currently. Pff, who even plays Standard?	Posted by ZarkBit#6794 on May 27, 2024, 4:00:48 AM Quote this Post
" ZarkBit wrote: Gee, I wonder what kind of technology it would take to let a buyer join a seller's hideout, gain access to his/her stash (showing only items listed) and buy whatever item, in exchange for the stipulated currency, like ritual? Like Expedition NPCs? You click on an item, which is transferred to buyer's stash, and have the stipulated currency transferred to the seller's stash? Must be alien tech for sure. Trade doesn't need to be automated, but it can be much better than what it is currently. Gee, who even sayed it is about tech? Read trade manifesto. Biggest compliments for my crafted items - "bs, they must have been RMT'ed" I'm disabled, I have rare case of semperduravera, so I can write things that may look rude, but it is because of disability - I'm forced to tell truth using words you may not like. Last edited by Nomancs#6176 on May 27, 2024, 4:23:55 AM	Posted by Nomancs#6176 on May 27, 2024, 4:21:10 AM Quote this Post
" ZarkBit wrote: Gee, I wonder what kind of technology it would take to let a buyer join a seller's hideout, gain access to his/her stash (showing only items listed) and buy whatever item, in exchange for the stipulated currency, like ritual? Like Expedition NPCs? You click on an item, which is transferred to buyer's stash, and have the stipulated currency transferred to the seller's stash? Must be alien tech for sure. Trade doesn't need to be automated, but it can be much better than what it is currently. Why do you think Blizzard pivoted from a RMAH in D3 to no trade at all? You can do (almost) anything in video games, but only because it's possible doesn't mean that it's a great idea. Maybe you should give this more thought than 5 seconds, and if you're still not convinced then read the Trade Manifesto which is still relevant today. The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.	Posted by ArtCrusade#4438 on May 27, 2024, 4:46:34 AM On Probation Quote this Post