Trade in PoE is not good and takes away from immersion

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ArtCrusade wrote:

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ZarkBit wrote:

Gee, I wonder what kind of technology it would take to let a buyer join a seller's hideout, gain access to his/her stash (showing only items listed) and buy whatever item, in exchange for the stipulated currency, like ritual? Like Expedition NPCs? You click on an item, which is transferred to buyer's stash, and have the stipulated currency transferred to the seller's stash?

Must be alien tech for sure.

Trade doesn't need to be automated, but it can be much better than what it is currently.

Why do you think Blizzard pivoted from a RMAH in D3 to no trade at all?

You can do (almost) anything in video games, but only because it's possible doesn't mean that it's a great idea. Maybe you should give this more thought than 5 seconds, and if you're still not convinced then read the Trade Manifesto which is still relevant today.

Oh but I have thought about it, a lot, even discussed with other people on reddit and we all came up with solutions to most of the problems created by this method.

Lmao.

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ZarkBit wrote:

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ArtCrusade wrote:

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ZarkBit wrote:

Gee, I wonder what kind of technology it would take to let a buyer join a seller's hideout, gain access to his/her stash (showing only items listed) and buy whatever item, in exchange for the stipulated currency, like ritual? Like Expedition NPCs? You click on an item, which is transferred to buyer's stash, and have the stipulated currency transferred to the seller's stash?

Must be alien tech for sure.

Trade doesn't need to be automated, but it can be much better than what it is currently.

Why do you think Blizzard pivoted from a RMAH in D3 to no trade at all?

You can do (almost) anything in video games, but only because it's possible doesn't mean that it's a great idea. Maybe you should give this more thought than 5 seconds, and if you're still not convinced then read the Trade Manifesto which is still relevant today.

Oh but I have thought about it, a lot, even discussed with other people on reddit and we all came up with solutions to most of the problems created by this method.

Lmao.

And you figured out that trade is as it is because of tech limitations? Rotfl. Read trade manifesto.

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Nomancs wrote:

And you figured out that trade is as it is because of tech limitations? Rotfl. Read trade manifesto.

I did read the trade manifesto, with its outdated ideologies and dull excuses.

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ZarkBit wrote:

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Nomancs wrote:

And you figured out that trade is as it is because of tech limitations? Rotfl. Read trade manifesto.

I did read the trade manifesto, with its outdated ideologies and dull excuses.

And was there anything about tech limitations?

Maybe the thinking part didn't work out so well..

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Nomancs wrote:

And was there anything about tech limitations?

The technology isn't there, it's still 2013 remember? But I can't wait to see this game in 2023!

Oh... Wait...

Someone didn't get the joke apparently.

I think I don't need to enumerate the issues that the current trading system presents, as I am pretty sure that in the last 6 pages someone already did that.

The current system has too much friction.

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ZarkBit wrote:

Gee, I wonder what kind of technology it would take to let a buyer join a seller's hideout, gain access to his/her stash (showing only items listed) and buy whatever item, in exchange for the stipulated currency, like ritual? Like Expedition NPCs? You click on an item, which is transferred to buyer's stash, and have the stipulated currency transferred to the seller's stash?

Must be alien tech for sure.

Trade doesn't need to be automated, but it can be much better than what it is currently.

Oh Jesus

How do you think others could see what are you selling WITHOUT visiting your HO?

Magic?

So it can be done here too, but instead of "send whisper" button there can be "Buy"

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ZarkBit wrote:

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Nomancs wrote:

And was there anything about tech limitations?

The technology isn't there, it's still 2013 remember? But I can't wait to see this game in 2023!

Oh... Wait...

Someone didn't get the joke apparently.

I think I don't need to enumerate the issues that the current trading system presents, as I am pretty sure that in the last 6 pages someone already did that.

The current system has too much friction.

Technology have nothing to do with it, remember?

Ofc some people want everything instantly, and they don’t care about bigger picture. It is clear in trade manifesto what will be changed to compensate for less friction, and then we will have mass hysteria agan. Even d4 know that friction is important, but since you know better - why not making your own game? for sure it will beat poe or d4 xD

Friction IS important.

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Nomancs wrote:

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SilverWF wrote:

Fk veiled orbs:
1. They all come from bots
2. Typical casual would never even touch it
3. GGG should finally fix their economy and crafting, but not add another crazy crafting items, which are accessible for RMTers or nolifers only.

So, you don’t care about consequences, ignore arguments and you just want everything NOW. I will tell you a secret - game is not and should never be balanced around casuals.

No, it is you completely ignoring the root of the problem, ignore any arguments and just want everything remains the same as you prefer and (most likely) getting some specific profit from exact this speculations.

Do you even know how market works?

I have a good A, I set a price X
It was bought nearly instantly
Ok
Next time I will set price 2X
And will continue raising my sell price until the sales would completely stopped.

What buyers would do if taken they are just resellers.
They would sell this stuff.
If the price would be too high for typical user, they would be forced to lower their prices, otherwise this is pure loss.

That's how prices are being fixed in the real World

Nobody coming to the Apple'f offices and buying ALL possible iPhones just to resell them to others, lol.

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floppydisk144 wrote:

guild wars 2 has a good auction house system.

True, absolutely golden system

It allows you not only sell stuff, but place buying orders too, which is extremely rare thing among the MMOs