[0.2] Cold Chronomancer Megathread. Nerfed to the ground.

I decided to still take it, but very slow. Beat t1 (and called it a day) with acts gear but some +1/spirit amu and Effigy of Cruelty focus, decided to go with crit route.

I went with CoF+Blasphemy. Was surprised by how much effigy is better than sceptre with CoC at my lvl (got 66-68 today, few maps with scepte, few maps with effigy).

Had to take Forthcoming wheel for the main weapon set. Tried to run Bomb w/o fast forward but that felt really bad, so I decided to decrease the duration of bomb as much as I can with both passives wheel and the gem.

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Just a small reminder, Critical Weakness is very good for cold spells.

I.e. base crit chance of Bomb is 13%, with 100% increased critical it becomes 26%.

Under full stacks, base crit chance becomes 13+10=23%, with 100% inc crit chance it becomes 46%.

So:
With 200% increased crit chance, it's 39%/69%
With 300% increased crit chance, it's 52%/92% (this is a breakpoint for getting comet critically capped at 60%/100%)

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Frost Wall is really good in applying those stacks.

So yeah, I'm thinking about going this route + Maligaro later.

Probably will switch CoF to CoC later too.

I literally just began mapping, still haven't even fixed res - no currency at all xD

yeah, and crit weakness was massively nerfed. not just eye of winter.

now each stack is independent and lasts 4s.
Reduced skill effect duration, and increased skill effect duration does effect this.



Malice aura.
applies stacks periodically, and the rate varies with level.
I think level 5 or size is when malice scepters start dropping.
Applies every .65s.


level 20 is .52s application.
level 21 is a nice even .5
(and it does keep scaling up at .1 per level up to 30)

quality is +1s duration at 20%


This is frankly a stupid change. having the stacks be independent is really dumb.



my level 17 20% quality malice aura
5s duration without any reduced skill effect duration.
is capping at 6%.


3.4% duration with 32% reduced via Forthcoming.
4% with forthcoming.

Edit: i released i was confusing % and stacks, here when testing.
level 17 malice, with 20% quality is 6% not 6 stacks.

as such, if you dont like frostbomb's delay, and don't want to use reduced skill effect duration, which DOES screw up, exposure duraction, time stop duration,etc.

I think its possible frost nova buff might be a viable replacement.
unleash scales off faster cast, and cdr. can be used with nova, or comet as desired.

ice nova+astral poj+echo+cold exposure core.
+glacation/mag effect/ambush/deepfreeze maybe.

this version of ice nova should match frostbomb in raw dps, while applying exposure.
and with unleash, possibly match it for burst.

this enables increased skill effect duration, and faster cast to be built around as well.

anyone tried out blind, blindside supports?

blind on nova, or frostwall.
Blindside on bomb, or comet.


or,
Deliberation
on comet or wall.

I just tested dauntless on comet. not worth it. it makes you stand still BEFORE you can cast it.

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Casia#1093 wrote:

yeah, and crit weakness was massively nerfed.

Yep, but this focus is very easy to get max stacks, and there are no problems with their uptime.

Here is the demo on the boss:

https://youtu.be/DozvfTLfQLQ

The 1st touch of the wall applied half of the stacks, full wall detonation applied full stacks, and they remained until the end of the fight. So, they can be overwritten and the reduced skill effect duration doesn't matter in a short fight.

Basically, this focus is the best way to get full stacks easy for us, that's why I think it's a good alternative to other offhands. Esp bc it's dirty cheap - I got mine for 1ex (5 stacks on crit, ~70% inc spell damage).

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monik390#5560 wrote:

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Casia#1093 wrote:

yeah, and crit weakness was massively nerfed.

Yep, but this focus is very easy to get max stacks, and there are no problems with their uptime.

Here is the demo on the boss:

https://youtu.be/DozvfTLfQLQ

The 1st touch of the wall applied half of the stacks, full wall detonation applied full stacks, and they remained until the end of the fight. So, they can be overwritten and the reduced skill effect duration doesn't matter in a short fight.

Basically, this focus is the best way to get full stacks easy for us, that's why I think it's a good alternative to other offhands. Esp bc it's dirty cheap - I got mine for 1ex (5 stacks on crit, ~70% inc spell damage).

yeah, although your vid did make me realize I misread. I was forgetting the display is %, not stack count.

so, the level 17 malice with 20% quality is 6%, not 6 stacks.
And a level 21 malice with 20% quality will get you 10%.
2 stacks per second, 5s duration. 10%. takes 5s to build.

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Casia#1093 wrote:

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monik390#5560 wrote:

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Casia#1093 wrote:

yeah, and crit weakness was massively nerfed.

Yep, but this focus is very easy to get max stacks, and there are no problems with their uptime.

Here is the demo on the boss:

https://youtu.be/DozvfTLfQLQ

The 1st touch of the wall applied half of the stacks, full wall detonation applied full stacks, and they remained until the end of the fight. So, they can be overwritten and the reduced skill effect duration doesn't matter in a short fight.

Basically, this focus is the best way to get full stacks easy for us, that's why I think it's a good alternative to other offhands. Esp bc it's dirty cheap - I got mine for 1ex (5 stacks on crit, ~70% inc spell damage).

yeah, although your vid did make me realize I misread. I was forgetting the display is %, not stack count.

so, the level 17 malice with 20% quality is 6%, not 6 stacks.
And a level 21 malice with 20% quality will get you 10%.
2 stacks per second, 5s duration. 10%. takes 5s to build.

Using Forthcoming and it's really hard to drop it to make Malice apply more stacks, atleast for clearing.

That focus is very strong early, but still loses to scepter because you simply cast more stuff.

On side note, tried using Ice Nova + Cold Snap with Mana Flare for a bit, works decently well. But unlike Frost Bomb/Frost Wall that is both clearing and single target, Ice Nova + Cold Snap is clearing only.

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monik390#5560 wrote:

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Casia#1093 wrote:

yeah, and crit weakness was massively nerfed.

Yep, but this focus is very easy to get max stacks, and there are no problems with their uptime.

Here is the demo on the boss:

https://youtu.be/DozvfTLfQLQ

The 1st touch of the wall applied half of the stacks, full wall detonation applied full stacks, and they remained until the end of the fight. So, they can be overwritten and the reduced skill effect duration doesn't matter in a short fight.

Basically, this focus is the best way to get full stacks easy for us, that's why I think it's a good alternative to other offhands. Esp bc it's dirty cheap - I got mine for 1ex (5 stacks on crit, ~70% inc spell damage).

OMG You use FrostBomb :(

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Casia#1093 wrote:

yeah, although your vid did make me realize I misread. I was forgetting the display is %, not stack count.

so, the level 17 malice with 20% quality is 6%, not 6 stacks.
And a level 21 malice with 20% quality will get you 10%.
2 stacks per second, 5s duration. 10%. takes 5s to build.

Sandstorm Visage adds 1 stack per second too (for 15 seconds duration).

This way it's easier to get it done with Omen sceptre, but it's a helmet slot too.

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Roboczewl#8364 wrote:

OMG You use FrostBomb :(

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As if I have any other choice. Bomb is way too convenient to use, bc of both exposure and damage.
Ice Nova requires 6 more passives for me.

Do you think the upcoming changes to wands — like the ability to socket runes and (I believe) the quality upgrade that should add something as well — will be just cosmetic, or could they actually make sorceresses and our chronomancers finally come to life?