I just quit POE2 because of lack of WAYSTONES.

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Sebastipole#0183 wrote:

How are you guys not sustaining maps, are you not transmuting them, making them rare, how do you not have literal millions of gold just from mapping, you and redditors are doing something fundamentally wrong.

literally can't do the maps fast enough tabs keep filling up and i'm here praying we get map affinity or map tab asap so I don't keep filling up my tabs with more maps.

this is on HC as well, so I'm playing slower than you guys in softcore, literally makes no sense how you guys are this clueless.

It's because you are not dying. People are dying all the time and then blame the system. Why else so many people would complain about having only one portal.

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Irrationale#9821 wrote:

I have 5k gold that allows me to buy a single WAYSTONE. I need 81 TIER1 waystones to combine them into TIER4 (my current tier).

MAPS do not drop waystones or drop them rarely even after I put 2 points into wayponts passive. I don't have exalts to upgrade my waysones so I simply ran out.

WAYSTONE drop should be GUARANTEED with your current stupid design (1 life only per map).

This is serious problem for new players, of course not for streamers that have millions of gold.

I have too much waystones , I didn't realized that the reforging bench can actually craft 3 Tier 1 to Tier 2 , I just randomly sold at least 50 plus Tier 1s

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Suchka_777#4336 wrote:

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Sebastipole#0183 wrote:

How are you guys not sustaining maps, are you not transmuting them, making them rare, how do you not have literal millions of gold just from mapping, you and redditors are doing something fundamentally wrong.

literally can't do the maps fast enough tabs keep filling up and i'm here praying we get map affinity or map tab asap so I don't keep filling up my tabs with more maps.

this is on HC as well, so I'm playing slower than you guys in softcore, literally makes no sense how you guys are this clueless.

It's because you are not dying. People are dying all the time and then blame the system. Why else so many people would complain about having only one portal.

The one portal mechanic is a rather ludicrous though for Non Hardcore.

You can call me a casual player, I do not rush forward to t15 maps and doing t5 atm. And I play havy CC builds and do not die. But there is an issue, when I do t5 map, it drops t1 and t2.
When I completed a quest with t3+ maps, I had only 2 t4 keystones and 4 t5 keystones and could buy only t1-t3 from vendor. End even then you can buy only a few of them and not be able to upgrade them to higher tier. I was forced to convert all hoarded keystones to t4 so nothing left to convert to t5. I have only 2 t5 stones atm and overall chance to receive more doing them is close to 0.

There is something fundamentally wrong with keystones droprate. I have done probably 50+ maps and did not receive a single t6. 60+ maps is a hilariously boring gameplay on itself. All this atlas mechanic is boring as hell and not rewarding at all. Who the F decided to remove bosses from most maps when boss fights are the only fun part of the game atm? Everything is wrong.

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chosk80#3649 wrote:

The one portal mechanic is a rather ludicrous though for Non Hardcore.

See? People are intended to die all the time, and they want to still get enough T15 waystones to do it.

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Schnapss#2890 wrote:

There is something fundamentally wrong with keystones droprate. I have done probably 50+ maps and did not receive a single t6. 60+ maps is a hilariously boring gameplay on itself. All this atlas mechanic is boring as hell and not rewarding at all. Who the F decided to remove bosses from most maps when boss fights are the only fun part of the game atm? Everything is wrong.

If you use those 2 T5 on bosses, you will get something for sure. Currently, it requires to juice maps, which is not mechanic I like too, but when you do it you shouldn't have too much trouble with getting waystones since you are not dying that much. Maybe chance of dropping in early mapping is too low though indeed, not sure. Later it probably much easier, there often ton of waystones dropping on the single map.

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Suchka_777#4336 wrote:

If you use those 2 T5 on bosses, you will get something for sure. Currently, it requires to juice maps, which is not mechanic I like too, but when you do it you shouldn't have too much trouble with getting waystones since you are not dying that much. Maybe chance of dropping in early mapping is too low though indeed, not sure. Later it probably much easier, there often ton of waystones dropping on the single map.

I got your point that I need to spend low tier keystones on non-essential maps without bosses. But wtf? Then I need to do not 100 but 200 maps to reach t10. I would better spend this time on learning another python framework than doing these maps. It is the similar boring shit but at least the first provide some rewards.

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Schnapss#2890 wrote:

I got your point that I need to spend low tier keystones on non-essential maps without bosses. But wtf? Then I need to do not 100 but 200 maps to reach t10. I would better spend this time on learning another python framework than doing these maps. It is the similar boring shit but at least the first provide some rewards.

I think learning another framework is a good idea :) And I agree that current endgame require a lot of changes, we should just wait a bit. For now, you can just buy T10 or higher and use it on the boss, costs just one ex. Don't need to do 200 maps in order to reach T10.

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Schnapss#2890 wrote:

It is the similar boring shit

By the way, it's similar boring shit on T15 maps, so I'm not sure what's the point of playing if you don't enjoy it. I play because I do.

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Suchka_777#4336 wrote:

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Schnapss#2890 wrote:

It is the similar boring shit

By the way, it's similar boring shit on T15 maps, so I'm not sure what's the point of playing if you don't enjoy it. I play because I do.

At first we can discuss buying maps) Casual player cannot afford to do it. Current exalt drop rate allows you to buy a gear that is necessary for the first 6, probably 8 maps tiers when you finish 6 acts.
Then you need to upgrade your gear and every piece of it will cost not 1-2 but 5-10 exalts and more. And it is almost impossible to sell something above 1ex if you do not live in the game. So you should be able to collect at least 50 exalts to t7, you will not be able to do higher tier maps if you spend exalts on them)
As for the boring, yes current mapping is screwed for a lot of reasons, drop rate is a tiny sidekick piece in a grand puzzle of issues.