Auction House Poll

Its an older thread at this point but I'm going to bump this.

If the whole idea is to have an immersive experience within POE2 then I believe an in game auctionhouse similar to(yes I know) world of warcrack would be a good start.

Make it cost something as a deposit to post so people arent endlessly spamming it and as they make successful trades they are rewarded with a lower deposit.

Nothing annoys me more than finding something I want to buy and spending the next hour trying to get a hold of someone who speaks my language or replies at all only to find out they sold it hours ago. Im here to play the game. I find something on the auctionhouse, I pay the amount, and 5 minutes later it arrives and I can continue playing. I'm still in the world having fun which is the desire behind this game.

I'm not even going to advocate for an in game AH. There definitely needs to be some barrier to combat botting and flippers, but some sort of instant-buy procedure would be really nice. use gold as a tax like the currency exchange. Keep it on the website and use a 2-factor authentication for purchasing to (as much as you can) keep it limited to actual players. Limit daily trades. idk. I don't claim to have the answer, but I feel like there's a middle ground to be struck somewhere. Having to get in contact with someone and meet up to trade is very archaic.

GGG who insists on his own opinion won't go back to do it.
And this skill is too difficult for them.

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Aijendo#3781 wrote:

I assume the majority of players in 2024 want an Auction House.

GGG doesn't want an AH for 12 years.

Could GGG have the balls to make a poll on twitter/X

and ask the players this simple Question:

Do you want an ingame Auction House?

Elon Musk is also playing PoE 2 and maybe he will make a poll on day, would be great to see what the majority of players want.

https://youtu.be/RskRFwgoQ5g?t=6700

No thanks - an AH would just ruin the game and its longlivety.

Its also obvious that this would dial real money trading from already problematic to insane.

Also when a post starts by using the silent majority one already knows its a bad argument.

So the fear is that RMT'ing and botting would ruin the game if AH happened for trading items? Except RMT'ing and botting are already ruining the game. They fix that problem then all they have is annoying trading or an AH where players don't have to alt-tab or interrupt their gameflow by meeting up with some random person.

And that's assuming the random person responds at all. People are different now than when I was trading back in D2. Back then a lot of folks were nice. You even might friend them and party up. Sure there were scammers but today's people have been ruined by technology and don't know how to communicate with real people. They don't even know they are being a-holes, they think their behavior is "normal".

Times have changed, we need an instant buyout. It solves many problems and doesn't really create anything worse than what it solves.

Yes.

Whatever allows me to sell without needing to interact with the buyer. I should be able to list my stash tab and see it replace with currency without any buyer interaction. I shouldn't have to leave my map for anything.

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FruitLord#0833 wrote:

So the fear is that RMT'ing and botting would ruin the game if AH happened for trading items? Except RMT'ing and botting are already ruining the game. They fix that problem then all they have is annoying trading or an AH where players don't have to alt-tab or interrupt their gameflow by meeting up with some random person.

And that's assuming the random person responds at all. People are different now than when I was trading back in D2. Back then a lot of folks were nice. You even might friend them and party up. Sure there were scammers but today's people have been ruined by technology and don't know how to communicate with real people. They don't even know they are being a-holes, they think their behavior is "normal".

Times have changed, we need an instant buyout. It solves many problems and doesn't really create anything worse than what it solves.

Thats just one thing - and Botting etc. would be way worse in an AH - way easier to manipulate.

One of the main reasons is that an Auction house makes one of the main aspects of the game the worse choice to play - looting and crafting. If you can get any item at any point and everyone can do it easly the market will be flooded with cheap leveling gear and non perfect endgame gear. While perfect or near perfect gear will be almost unnafordable and probably mostly bought by ppl that use RMT to get currency or items.

So in reality this means 97% of players will actually play the AH instead of the Game or farm the game for currency to go to the AH since the chance of them dropping something better while leveling or even in endgame than they can afford for cheap is probably less than 5%.

An AH would also mean that RMT will be even more used since you can easily get any item without even spending time. D3 had the same issue - the RMAH was real money and ingame currency - but what i described was exactly what happened - everything got cheap when it comes to leveling gear and non perfect endgame gear - actually playing the game seemed pointless since you were able to get an item for cheap where you would never find a better one. All that did is supercharge Progress of players in a loot based progression system making the game boring fast.


All of that also got even more RMT with their Bots etc. into the game ruining the game even further and make everything actually good unaffordable if you dont want to spend real money or are the luckiest person on the planet.

I mean its not a secret that they removed the AH from D3 and didnt even implement one at launch in D4.

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Thats just one thing - and Botting etc. would be way worse in an AH - way easier to manipulate.

Bots completely destroyed D2 trade even without a trade site )) So it doesn't matter if there is AH, tradingsite, or nothing.

If you want bots out - restrict trade. Limit number of items selling, or set time windows for selling or smth like that so that simply will be unprofitable for bots, but will be okay for 99% of players who want to trade.

The issue is more like i put something up for sale, it gets listed on the website so far great. The website is easy to do and the ways you can search is the best i have seen. But now the selling it self, i need to either go to the person buying or return to where they can get and you need to be in party and then trade. Also in the mean time I'm not able to play or have any fun.

What i would do is the following.

1. The website stays its easy to navigate and search.
2. When some one wants to buy something the say buy it now no more whispers. If its negotiable then you say i bid x stuff for it (either from in game or website as long as it can tell if you have the items bidding.
3a. By by it now you walk in town or hideout to a mailbox and pick up your item or our currency (when you are the seller). So no more interaction needed.
3b.If you placed a bid then the seller sees this in his mailbox and see the item and what the bid is he/she either accepts or ignores. When accepted see 3a when not accepted it stays listed.
4. Nothing else no need to party or trade all done without interaction of the player and no longs waits until someone response to you.

Mailbox is only for pickups of items not for sending items without going trough the website. Also not for sending mail that's for later.