Why cant we get a proper self found with higher drop rates?

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1453R#7804 wrote:

For all the people trying to buff SSF drop rates by ten thousand percent and turn it into the de facto Standard Mode because they despise trading:

Do you also despise unique items? Or rare affixes in gear, with 'rare' meaning "esoteric and very difficult to find, unlikely to ever be seen"?

I wanted to try the Falling Thunder Invoker build. To make it work properly, I needed a Call of the Brotherhood and a Serpent's Egg. Chunk of exalts later I had both items and could try the cool thing I made the character to do. If I had been forced into SSF instead because the ultra ridiculous drop rate buffs everybody wants in SSF would make it the only way to play? I would NEVER be able to play that character. It could take multiple years for both the ring and the amulet to drop in the same league, if they ever do.

SSF is sheerest poison to people who like making and/or playing intricate builds - y'know, the actual entire reason to play Path of Exile instead of literally any other game. I know SSF Bros like to say "well just play trade then, forehead!" but let's be real. Let's dispense with the nonsense for once - SSF Bros want trade excised from the game forever.

It's the reason they keep pushing for a level of loot buffs that would make playing the game any other way an exercise in self-defeating idiocy. They don't care about making it completely impossible to assemble actually interesting builds, all they want is the Dropamine from Finding Awesome Loot. They do not care in the slightest what kind of character they're playing so long as it provides an endless source of Dropamine. Builds mean absolutely nothing to SSF Bros, ONLY the Dropamine matters.

Not everybody cares about Dropamine, guys. Some of us play the game for other reasons, and would like to continue to be able to do so.

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No, it's a problem the devs need to solve or at the very least communicate. I'm so sick of this constant victim blaming towards consumers from people who get upset that someone is rightfully criticizing the thing they've chosen to p*ss their life away with.

This is an arpg, so first and foremost a game about leveling up a character, and equipping it with loot you find or craft.

Tell me, where on this website does it tell customers that this is a game with "trading in mind"?

https://pathofexile2.com/early-access

I'll wait.

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Cyriac_Darakus#1022 wrote:

Even Diablo 3 on release.. had trade and an auction house, oh and it still does have limited trade. Guess what? Diablo 4 also has trade. The Torchlight games... also have trade.

So name an ARPG that DOES NOT have trade.

I will be waiting.

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Diablo 3. Because you simply lied.

In Diablo 3 you can't trade, you can simply give items to each other that dropped in the game you were playing together already anyway. So it's nothing else than a different form of free for all loot on the ground.

And you want to know why that is? Because the players correctly identified that the drop rates in the game all revolved around the availability of items in the auction house.

And even the devs themselves realized that, which is why the whole idea was completely abandoned.

SO congratulations, you dismantled your own argument with this disingenuous reply. Thanks for that.

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If only hyperbole can make it look like your "argument" has a leg to stand on, maybe rethink your argument.

I feel like we're living in the upside down when players are now seriously arguing against finding your own loot by playing the game. If only you guys could hear how [Removed by Support] y'all sound.

I get it, [Removed by Support] are scared of change. You've invested years of your life probably to master playing POE, and now some heathen proposes a change to the formula. That scares you, like so many other things in the world.

But maybe, just maybe, google "empathy", and reflect a little on that word. Because when people are suggesting the implementation of a feature in a way that wouldn't even affect the mode you will prefer to play in, it doesn't cost you anything to be a decent human being [Removed by Support], and cross your fingers for them.

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Cyriac_Darakus#1022 wrote:

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Diablo 3. Because you simply lied.

In Diablo 3 you can't trade, you can simply give items to each other that dropped in the game you were playing together already anyway. So it's nothing else than a different form of free for all loot on the ground.

And you want to know why that is? Because the players correctly identified that the drop rates in the game all revolved around the availability of items in the auction house.

And even the devs themselves realized that, which is why the whole idea was completely abandoned.

SO congratulations, you dismantled your own argument with this disingenuous reply. Thanks for that.

So in Diablo 3 I cannot get 3 of my friends to run the same class and TRADE me the gear that drops to improve my character faster than if I was to do it myself?

This is still a form of TRADE, sure I am not getting any currency for it but it allows me to improve my character faster than if I purely played solo. It was a pretty common practice amongst my group of friends.

And Diablo 3 is probably the worst and least liked ARPG in the entire genre. It is not ARPG that someone should aspire to create.

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Cyriac_Darakus#1022 wrote:

He is 100% correct though. Buffing SSF drop rate would just completly remove the trade league. It removes a large portion of players from trade league, gutting the amount of people feeding the economy, effectively killing off that game mode.

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Finally you're showing your hands on what this is really about.

You're simply scared sh*tless than another way to play the game would prove to be more popular to the thing you're used to.

Yeah, classic conservative thinking based on nothing but fear.