Dissapointed with GGG today.

Not sure why they want to die on this hill. It's literally the one thing making me not want to engage with endgame at all. And with poe1 seemingly abandoned it just is really disappointing

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Babonzo#0016 wrote:

And I love how some people act like the game is perfect.

Or I love how some people think that only 10 people have some problems.

And suggestions of those same clueless people would make the game only worse, not better. Anyone asking to skip a game so they can see the big Congratulations screen immediatly does not know what they actually want. Otherwise they would be playing Diablo 4 Spiritborn right now and enjoying their time pressing a button and winning instantly.

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KingDaMuncha#6025 wrote:

I'm watching the live stream and FINALLY they got to the subject of ONE portal and The huge XP loss. And confirmed this is thier vision of teh game, and if you happen to be in a situation where you're dying too much, just Git Gud, Your not supposed to play end game if you suck.

Yes. That's correct. Nobody ever beat Mario by being bad at it. You had to continually improve until you could beat the game.

Getting to 100 in a Path of Exile game, whether POE1 or POE2, means:
- Constantly improving your gameplay
- Continued investing in your gear until it gets super powerful
- Continued investing in your gems to get the max power out of them
- Figuring out skill and passive tree combinations to maximize damage output and defenses such that you clear maps without worry of death
- Figuring out boss mechanics such that you kill them before they kill you

The game is working as intended. I for one am glad Jonathan & Mark confirmed that vision.

Wrong. You just avoid hard content to grind your level 100 in a safe easy environment where nothing kills you or buy a carry.

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_ZLoBny_#7128 wrote:

Wrong. You just avoid hard content to grind your level 100 in a safe easy environment where nothing kills you or buy a carry.

Exactly, people are frankly insane to think otherwise.

Stop it. Get Some Help.

Skill, Item, & Balance patches should always be rolled out immediately. It was disappointing to hear GGG not sharing this sentiment. Waiting until a new realm gets created to begin testing is lazy design.

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KingDaMuncha#6025 wrote:

I'm watching the live stream and FINALLY they got to the subject of ONE portal and The huge XP loss. And confirmed this is thier vision of teh game, and if you happen to be in a situation where you're dying too much, just Git Gud, Your not supposed to play end game if you suck. Thats thir vision of how the game should be played and hell will freeze over before they make the game more enjoyable for non elite players.

That's not the message I heard, https://youtu.be/WjxzTAcJqAM?t=5350

I heard they discuss this a lot, that they don't want to go back to six portals if possible, as feel there should be some real possibility of failure for it to be a game, and that six portals never offered that. So they're trying to add six attempts to pinnacle bosses instead, given the economic value of each attempt at these bosses.

But also that they recognised that death right now has too many combined penalty axes, across map progression loss and experience loss. That random monster combinations are making early maps too hard and there's little to be learned as a player from the death other than playing more carefully. That they suspect they need to lower difficulty and ease players into maps more, and will do so based on further thought and large volumes of feedback received. That they would also like to reduce the penalties for map failure (loss of a juiced map) if they could find a way of doing so without introducing exploits.

(Personally I far prefer six portals when mapping, as I don't think it's likely that sufficient balance can be consistently achieved by GGG across enough builds and given future releases, to make single shot mapping feel good. A la the history of PoE 1 Archnemesis problems, still raising their heads in PoE 2. I think they need six portals as an insurance policy given the way this typically goes. So for me this is the wrong call, but I can appreciate they want to try.)

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Grauthrim#2960 wrote:

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KingDaMuncha#6025 wrote:

I'm watching the live stream and FINALLY they got to the subject of ONE portal and The huge XP loss. And confirmed this is thier vision of teh game, and if you happen to be in a situation where you're dying too much, just Git Gud, Your not supposed to play end game if you suck. Thats thir vision of how the game should be played and hell will freeze over before they make the game more enjoyable for non elite players.

Screw you Johnathan! Saying shit like that is going to cost your company alot of money.

More than just you plays the game. Others want it to be this way as it keeps the value of boss drops and most of the items in the game.

You're now given more chances to learn fights, this is a good change. The XP penalty has always been here since PoE 1. The company doesn't cater to the wider audience and never has either.

So the company does not need a wider audience...it needs a few die hards, right?

See what is happening with Lost Ark. What I hear here again is someone who is just a pathetic. A number of my friends stopped playing when I told them that the end game is as follows: map, map, map, die, map, die, map, map, die, map...and no progress the deaths take progress away from you.

After that explanation, They finished the campaign Act 1 to 3 left...this game needs to respect your time better or it will fail.

After listening into the stream, they have realised this and that their end-game loop is shit. If it was great from the start, they would not be making all the changes. So get a life.

I agree that its too brutal with the amount of stuff you lose with it.

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masskillers#5403 wrote:

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_ZLoBny_#7128 wrote:

Wrong. You just avoid hard content to grind your level 100 in a safe easy environment where nothing kills you or buy a carry.

Exactly, people are frankly insane to think otherwise.

Think both of you forget about the omen. Losing 2.5÷ on 99 is like 3 juiced maps. Getting 100 in PoE1 is really not that hard if it is worth a few divines for you. I did it playing corrupted guardian maps only last season and I am far off being good at this game compared to others. Slowly ramping to 95 in EA but I think with the visibility changes and a few adjustments I would have been there long ago.