Economy is such as trash now

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traddermctradder#2854 wrote:

You need to be more efficient with your farm.

Go run Trial of chaos or sekh.

Take the desperate alliance relic to get the jewel.

Get the runs down and you can do easy 30 minute runs.

That is a min of 4 divs an hour not including timelost and those other expensive jewel/other drops.

Or if you hate that go run trial of chaos.

Week two of this league I farmed almost 200 divs just spamming trial of sekh with the jewel drop. Using a dirt cheap minion start build.

Most people are falling behind on the inflation. So you need to find items that scale with it.

Like darkness jewels.


Learn to love trial of sekh. You dont have to mess around with maps/towers/anything.

99% of people are running maps. Be the 1%.

100% this, jewel mods are much less random imo or just easier to get decent ones that sell and sekhemas is the place for it, I'd venture to guess consistency wise with the diamond sekhemas is probably the most consistent money maker in the game requiring almost no investment( you can buy every relic to get you started with max resists for less then 5ex total.

Out of all the shit i got up for trading in my Quad Tab , Jewels are always what i get the most whispers for . Sold one this morning for 100 Ex and it was rather meh tbh . Jewels can also be farmed in Maps too if you go for Local Knowledge Atlas Passive .

Divinations cards is a good way for drop price of some really rare item.

Economy sucks and this is a trash game?

fuck off.

theres so many different builds in the game and you cant find ways to make things work without trade?

if you stopped relying on build guides and actually played the game you wouldnt need "best of the best" items to begin with.

but i would agree that economy is fucked.

its fucked for 2 reasons

1. over performing builds. the difference between overperforming builds and a regular player doing their own thing is staggering. where you could literally blow everything on the screen up in seconds VS having to carefully slap the enemies with your stick. this causes an "economic disparity" where some players can earn many divines per hour while some players have problems just sustaining maps.

2. exploits that GGG took too long to fix.

it is definitely ON GGG. but i wont blame them. the ea launched too near holiday season. they deserve a break.

and i ll remind everyone again.

its fucking EA.

so why is the economy so screwed now?

More cheating and duping?

It is hyperinflation.

There is no exit of currency from the economy.
Crafting does not exist.

So instead of a person hammering away in their hideout
consuming hundreds of crafting materials a day.

There is no point to using crafting materials for anything other than
buying gear.

So as currency builds up it becomes less and less valuable.
So prices climb.

And will continue to do that until the game provides a
reason to destroy the currency.

A pull on the one arm bandit is always the worst investment
so it is not going to happen.

AH should have strict rule of one trade of item only. This would remove any flippers in instant.

Also remove trade would kill rmt for good like in BDO there is auction and no trade so zero botters and rmt.

D4 is suprisingly fun, I dont miss poe at all. All the grind 500+ hours on two chars for nothing, I am so sick of those crap uniques dropping all the time and uselless shitty yellows.

No idea how to quote here so I just reply randomly. I did like 100 chaos runs and I am so sick of that anyway. I am not a bot.

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desper940#2462 wrote:

AH should have strict rule of one trade of item only. This would remove any flippers in instant.

Also remove trade would kill rmt for good like in BDO there is auction and no trade so zero botters and rmt.

D4 is suprisingly fun, I dont miss poe at all. All the grind 500+ hours on two chars for nothing, I am so sick of those crap uniques dropping all the time and uselless shitty yellows.

No idea how to quote here so I just reply randomly. I did like 100 chaos runs and I am so sick of that anyway. I am not a bot.

Dude, about the uniques - you live under assumption they are supposed to be good cause they are good in Blizzard games. Newsflash - this is not their game. Here uniques are just items with a predetermined set of parameters, some of them pretty unique indeed. It doesn't say anywhere that a "unique" item has to be some ultimate-end-all BiS item for any character. It is just your own mentality cause you were trained in this way of thinking by blizzard games.
On the other hand the "yellows" that are good rolled are 100th times more rare than any uniques and are the real chase items in this game.

Also it's perplexing to see so many people being upset about the trading here. Economy in PoE works just like any other - supply and demand. The only thing that's different is having dupes, for example, which are due to bugs and mechanics that were overlooked and allowed things like that Temporalis craziness, and have to be fixed. The "early access" tag isn't for nothing tho, while the game runs and looks great, you kinda expect this stuff to happen - the release still was a bit rushed IMO. We are something like beta testers so it's all understandable, yet all I see on this forums is people whine all day like it's a full-release game.

"Don't use the Trade Market, I craft or farm everything myself. This is a single-player game; there's no need for a Trade Market," advices like this don't change the fact that the Trade Market and the economic system are in a terrible state. The developers can't address the issues in the game. The Trade Market is controlled by the Asian region. Items worth 1 ex have been inflated to 1 div. They run 24/7 operations in internet cafes with teams of 20-30 people, completely ruining the game. Not using the Trade Market isn't an option because the game has no proper reward system. I've played for 450 hours and still haven't found a single item I can actually use through drops.

who says theyre worth 1ex?


theyre worth whatever they sell for.