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I've never seen so much calcs/chat about nothing. OP has a point.
If a life build has 2500HP now with life mods on gear, they could remove the life from rare items and give it on level up instead. So at lvl95 or so you still end up with 2500HP but now you can stack much more evasion/armour.
That makes no sense. That means every build has access to the same amount of life and completely eliminates life stacker builds as an archetype in the game.
Kaoms, etc. will still exist for life stackers. Keep up.
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Posted bySaiyanZ#3112on Sep 26, 2025, 4:01:05 PM
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Kaoms, etc. will still exist for life stackers. Keep up.
Chuck on a Kaom's and go map T15 6mod deli then.
You heard him guys it takes one item to completely abolish a stat from gear, so simple. We should've just put on a Kaom's, how did we not think of it. He's a genius
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Posted byAverBeg7#1689on Sep 26, 2025, 4:08:43 PM
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I've never seen so much calcs/chat about nothing. OP has a point.
If a life build has 2500HP now with life mods on gear, they could remove the life from rare items and give it on level up instead. So at lvl95 or so you still end up with 2500HP but now you can stack much more evasion/armour.
That makes no sense. That means every build has access to the same amount of life and completely eliminates life stacker builds as an archetype in the game.
Kaoms, etc. will still exist for life stackers. Keep up.
So, every single life stacker build should wear the exact same gear with no other option to use anything else? It's obvious you haven't thought this through at all.
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So, every single life stacker build should wear the exact same gear with no other option to use anything else? It's obvious you haven't thought this through at all.
Just so you are aware.
And pretty much everyone here wondering for that matter.
Life stacker to the degree people are talking about. Is 100% using Kaoms, and Veil.
And nearly relegated to an entire 1 ascendancy.
Mash the clean
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Posted byMashgesture#2912on Sep 26, 2025, 4:37:45 PM
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So, every single life stacker build should wear the exact same gear with no other option to use anything else? It's obvious you haven't thought this through at all.
Just so you are aware.
And pretty much everyone here wondering for that matter.
Life stacker to the degree people are talking about. Is 100% using Kaoms, and Veil.
And nearly relegated to an entire 1 ascendancy.
It's not. A lot of people are using those things, but not all. Some people playing Blood Mage are taking the ascendancy node that gives life per ES on chest. Then, they are also getting life on amulet, belt, focus, Grand Spectrum rubies, etc.
Also, a number of people are playing this build on other classes/ascendancies, like Ritualist or Titan.
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Basic flat max life mods shouldn't be on gear. Removing life from the skill tree from PoE1 to PoE2 was an amazing change. Do the same thing with items. Every armour and evasion character needs flat life on all of their gear pieces. It's damn lame for gearing and is a wrench in the cogs of scaling and progression design.
Life should just scale primarily on level. Exceptions such as % life on amulets, runes, uniques or other special mods should still exist of course.
At least remove life prefixes from gloves, helmets, boots and body armours and increase life gained when players level up instead.
they should just add some big life nodes on the opposite polar sides of the tree, like one north, one south, east and west, all the way, so its impossible to get more than 2 or not worth to get more than 2, plus more flat life per level, life needs some serious buffs like this.
If they did that, the % life on gear would become less necessary.
Imo like 20% increase plus stuff like life leech, or regen, or evasion with it.
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Posted byThe_Risen#6326on Sep 26, 2025, 5:14:41 PM
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Why is this proposed changing being a 'minor buff to non chaos inoculation ES builds' even a factor? We already know ES is overtuned as all hell. Either GGG nerfs ES scaling eventually or they don't. That shouldn't be a limiting factor for trying to better balance life builds.
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Posted byLVSviral#3689on Sep 26, 2025, 5:15:50 PM
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So, every single life stacker build should wear the exact same gear with no other option to use anything else? It's obvious you haven't thought this through at all.
Just so you are aware.
And pretty much everyone here wondering for that matter.
Life stacker to the degree people are talking about. Is 100% using Kaoms, and Veil.
And nearly relegated to an entire 1 ascendancy.
It's not. A lot of people are using those things, but not all. Some people playing Blood Mage are taking the ascendancy node that gives life per ES on chest. Then, they are also getting life on amulet, belt, focus, Grand Spectrum rubies, etc.
Also, a number of people are playing this build on other classes/ascendancies, like Ritualist or Titan.
It actually is.
Its not even a debate lol. 
And this is the low end of "life stacking"
6k I wouldnt even clarify as life stacking but I am giving you a little room for goal post shifting.
5k is possible on investment builds in a regular life build on a titan. Without these uniques. Min/max you are not reaching 6k without these, unless you have the most insane corrupts known to man.
Again,
Kaoms
Limited Ascendancies (nearly a single one lol)
Veil.
Mash the clean
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Posted byMashgesture#2912on Sep 26, 2025, 5:27:50 PM
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