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IF YOU ARE RUNNING OUT OF MAPS, you are doing something increadibly stupid like runnning them as norm or magic, ROLL YOUR MAPS and you WILL NOT RUN OUT, it's simple.
That's not a given, there's a lot of RNG involved, and if you're unlucky you're punished very hard. I ran my last two T15s (yellow) on lvl81 bosses (irradiated + corrupted +1 diff from atlas) and got no waystone drop from them at all, and the highest I got from those two maps was a T14 from trash mobs. This T14 then didn't drop anything above T13 and so I'm back two tiers getting no XP at all even tho I'm fully specced in waystone tier level.
If you happen to get on the wrong side of RNG it's really, really rough with the endgame progress and no amount of juice is of any help.
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Posted byKubaLy#4534on Jan 1, 2025, 7:13:18 PM
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IF YOU ARE RUNNING OUT OF MAPS, you are doing something increadibly stupid like runnning them as norm or magic, ROLL YOUR MAPS and you WILL NOT RUN OUT, it's simple.
That's not a given, there's a lot of RNG involved, and if you're unlucky you're punished very hard. I ran my last two T15s (yellow) on lvl81 bosses (irradiated + corrupted +1 diff from atlas) and got no waystone drop from them at all, and the highest I got from those two maps was a T14 from trash mobs. This T14 then didn't drop anything above T13 and so I'm back two tiers getting no XP at all even tho I'm fully specced in waystone tier level.
If you happen to get on the wrong side of RNG it's really, really rough with the endgame progress and no amount of juice is of any help.
https://maxroll.gg/poe2/atlas-tree/oi1r7201
Try that out I ended up getting waystone drops all over the damn place running maps I
trans+aug+regal'd.. probably best waystone farming I've found.
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Posted byQticaX#4168on Jan 1, 2025, 7:21:25 PM
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I've started mapping yesterday morning and today im sitting at around 100+ maps including 10 or so t13-15. Dunno how you guys run out :(
Use waystone passives on atlas tree. Alc and go no longer worth is so just regal, get some mf and gogo :)
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I have literally an entire stash tab filled to the brim with maps i cannot exhaust what are you guys even doing? Are you just rushing the rares and then portaling and killing like 10 mobs per map? Are you just running white maps??
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Posted byKashou#2868on Jan 1, 2025, 8:22:41 PM
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Posted byWake90#5459on Jan 1, 2025, 8:31:50 PM
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Map drop rates are not really good for higher level sustain. I have 5 tabs filled with maps (with an okay number of 13-15's) but if im running T15 maps i dont want to see T13 and below on the occasion that a map does drop. The solution would be to buy maps but given the state of the market it wont be long before T14 and higher start costing divines (thus RMTers are really exposing themselves here in this discussion with the "hurrr im loaded with T15s and 16's hurrr. Yeah we get it you paid real money for exalts/divines to buy the gear you needed to steam roll maps for better drops).
Enough people are complaining about drop rates for it to at least be looked into. GGG and Tencent need to remember something extremely important: Map Sustain = Player Sustain; Player Sustain = Quarterly Earning Sustain.
Drop rates as a whole is just another massive issue along with a long list of other problems that WILL crush player numbers if not addressed.
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Posted byflclkun#0630on Jan 1, 2025, 8:36:29 PM
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Map drop rates are not really good for higher level sustain. I have 5 tabs filled with maps (with an okay number of 13-15's) but if im running T15 maps i dont want to see T13 and below on the occasion that a map does drop. The solution would be to buy maps but given the state of the market it wont be long before T14 and higher start costing divines (thus RMTers are really exposing themselves here in this discussion with the "hurrr im loaded with T15s and 16's hurrr. Yeah we get it you paid real money for exalts/divines to buy the gear you needed to steam roll maps for better drops).
Enough people are complaining about drop rates for it to at least be looked into. GGG and Tencent need to remember something extremely important: Map Sustain = Player Sustain; Player Sustain = Quarterly Earning Sustain.
Drop rates as a whole is just another massive issue along with a long list of other problems that WILL crush player numbers if not addressed.
I think it's fine that you don't always have infinite stacks of the map you want to run.
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Posted byKashou#2868on Jan 1, 2025, 8:39:56 PM
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I haven't had too much of an issue, but one thing is Waystones should only drop 1-2 Tiers below the current Tier you are on. I ran T14 and got a single T1...that's it just a T1. Ridiculous.
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Posted byZanitok#5950on Jan 1, 2025, 8:50:57 PM
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IF YOU ARE RUNNING OUT OF MAPS, you are doing something increadibly stupid like runnning them as norm or magic, ROLL YOUR MAPS and you WILL NOT RUN OUT, it's simple.
That's not a given, there's a lot of RNG involved, and if you're unlucky you're punished very hard. I ran my last two T15s (yellow) on lvl81 bosses (irradiated + corrupted +1 diff from atlas) and got no waystone drop from them at all, and the highest I got from those two maps was a T14 from trash mobs. This T14 then didn't drop anything above T13 and so I'm back two tiers getting no XP at all even tho I'm fully specced in waystone tier level.
If you happen to get on the wrong side of RNG it's really, really rough with the endgame progress and no amount of juice is of any help.
https://maxroll.gg/poe2/atlas-tree/oi1r7201
Try that out I ended up getting waystone drops all over the damn place running maps I
trans+aug+regal'd.. probably best waystone farming I've found.
Thank you! However the atlas is 28/30 exactly like mine, so I'll just hope that once my luck averages out it's going to be smooth mapping.
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Posted byKubaLy#4534on Jan 1, 2025, 8:51:41 PM
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I have 5k gold that allows me to buy a single WAYSTONE. I need 81 TIER1 waystones to combine them into TIER4 (my current tier).
MAPS do not drop waystones or drop them rarely even after I put 2 points into wayponts passive. I don't have exalts to upgrade my waysones so I simply ran out.
WAYSTONE drop should be GUARANTEED with your current stupid design (1 life only per map).
This is serious problem for new players, of course not for streamers that have millions of gold.
my multiple quad tabs of waystones say otherwise.
Have you considered doing a little research into why you're failing at something the majority of people are having no problem with? Quitting is ok too, but you're not doing something right ot have this issue. The only time the entire time ive played ive bought a map was grabbing tier 1's to throw in towers.
It's definitely not the majority. It's the top 1% of you people playing the top meta builds and using all the currently unpatched exploits, like maxing increased rarity of items found and running breaches over and over.
For people who aren't playing a top meta build and are having trouble with getting one shot in maps, it's very easy to run out of waystones.
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