Is PoE2 even PoE?

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H3rB1985#0551 wrote:

He is not wrong.
The supporters got scammed with a wrong presentation 2021. They had much less skill effects and more visual clarity, smoother and faster gameplay.

2022 Elden Ring released and some tourists threw the old concept over board. Druid and Amazon were ready 2021 already, but had to be delayed to fit into the new combat and movement slogs.

Now you are stucked with an engine coded for something else.


Well, we can probably say the 2021 supporters got a very cheap lesson about investing money.
I'm playing now the game knowing it will change and maybe I'll enjoy it less in the future.
Last edited by SparvieroGed#4893 on Dec 23, 2025, 3:48:23 PM
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Well, we can probably say the 2021 supporters got a very cheap lesson about investing money.


They learned that they did get what they paid for, which in this case was cosmetics, not a shareholding, voting rights, or any say in how the company spends its money. As customers, they received their products, not a contract to participate in the company’s business or to decide whether it should expand beyond a single title, such as the current case where the company chooses to work on a sequel.

There is therefore no reason to feel entitled to anything further, even in a scenario where PoE1 were taken offline, because what was purchased was MTX and the advertised product was delivered. If people become dramatically emotional over their spending and start to feel like investors who have been mistreated, it may be a sign that purchasing decisions should be made more carefully in the future. Unless you actually own shares in a company or are formally part of it, “supporting” a game by buying in game items will always mean being nothing more than a customer.
Hobby Gamer and Professional Software Engineer & Systems Architect from Tennessee

“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe“ - Albert Einstein
It's actually even funny that people even say the phrase "supporting the game" when they talk about purchases.....as if you aren't just simply buying a product. Are you "supporting" Hershey when you buy a chocolate bar from the store? Are you "supporting" the chinese restaurant you just bought dinner from last night? That's like the parody thinking straight out of the South Park episode where Stan moves to California, and everyone driving a Prius thinks they are above everyone else and saving the world.

It's hilarious how this mentality is formed. When you buy things, you aren't "supporting the development of PoE" in the way you people think, you are simply buying into a rather cheap tactic of re-charging you for the same game over and over and over again. It is merely a business plan that milks MORE money from the users than a single purchase price of a game does.


People have this misguided notion that they are somehow "donating money to a needy cause" when they purchase mtx or packs. Because they hope for things in the future. And ofc GGG as a company is going to encourage that thinking as much as they can because it makes people spend more. Reality: you are purchasing a product at that moment, you receive the product, and that's where your transaction ends. Like any and all transactions you do in your life for a product.
Starting anew....with PoE 2
Last edited by cowmoo275#3095 on Dec 23, 2025, 6:59:29 PM
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It's actually even funny that people even say the phrase "supporting the game" when they talk about purchases.....as if you aren't just simply buying a product. Are you "supporting" Hershey when you buy a chocolate bar from the store? Are you "supporting" the chinese restaurant you just bought dinner from last night? That's like the parody thinking straight out of the South Park episode where Stan moves to California, and everyone driving a Prius thinks they are above everyone else and saving the world.

It's hilarious how this mentality is formed. When you buy things, you aren't "supporting the development of PoE" in the way you people think, you are simply buying into a rather cheap tactic of re-charging you for the same game over and over and over again. It is merely a business plan that milks MORE money from the users than a single purchase price of a game does.


People have this misguided notion that they are somehow "donating money to a needy cause" when they purchase mtx or packs. Because they hope for things in the future. And ofc GGG as a company is going to encourage that thinking as much as they can because it makes people spend more. Reality: you are purchasing a product at that moment, you receive the product, and that's where your transaction ends. Like any and all transactions you do in your life for a product.


Uh... because it's literally called "Supporter Pack" officially defined by GGG?

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Players can purchase supporter packs to help fund the continued development of Path of Exile. Supporter packs typically include microtransaction points, exclusive cosmetic items and other digital goods such as a supporter forum title. Some also come with physical goods or other perks. Most supporter packs are only available for a limited time.

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Supporter_pack?

If it were called "Cosmetic Pack" I literally would have never dropped a dime?

I bought $90 pack for 3.27 to literally SUPPORT the game, because I love the game that much? I have 635 spare coins I don't even use.
1. "Meaningful Combat" Is Anti-ARPG: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3884793
2. Mechanical Skill (Dodgeroll) and Intellectual Skill: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3883605
3. Some PoE2 Numbers and Charts: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3896886
Last edited by nagisanzeninzz#2697 on Dec 23, 2025, 9:39:03 PM
People: I am too smart to fall for marketing tricks

Also people:
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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People: I am too smart to fall for marketing tricks

Also people:


You fell for it more than me then.
1. "Meaningful Combat" Is Anti-ARPG: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3884793
2. Mechanical Skill (Dodgeroll) and Intellectual Skill: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3883605
3. Some PoE2 Numbers and Charts: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3896886
Last edited by nagisanzeninzz#2697 on Dec 23, 2025, 10:09:28 PM
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People: I am too smart to fall for marketing tricks

Also people:


You fell for it more than me then.


He knew what he was paying for.
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de99ial#0161 wrote:
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People: I am too smart to fall for marketing tricks

Also people:


You fell for it more than me then.


He knew what he was paying for.


Yup, according to your's and ArtCrusade rationale: I'm wrong for believing in GGG and supporting GGG.

If it's true: I hope many also realizes this.

If it's wrong: You're just slandering GGG to win an argument.

Either way? I don't care.
1. "Meaningful Combat" Is Anti-ARPG: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3884793
2. Mechanical Skill (Dodgeroll) and Intellectual Skill: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3883605
3. Some PoE2 Numbers and Charts: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3896886
Last edited by nagisanzeninzz#2697 on Dec 24, 2025, 2:27:51 AM
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People: I am too smart to fall for marketing tricks

Also people:


You fell for it more than me then.



One buys supporter packs for the cosmetics.
Financially supporting the company is just the byproduct.

The other buys supporter packs “to support the company”…
then resents the company for succeeding.

These are not the same.
Hobby Gamer and Professional Software Engineer & Systems Architect from Tennessee

“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe“ - Albert Einstein
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People: I am too smart to fall for marketing tricks

Also people:


You fell for it more than me then.



One buys supporter packs for the cosmetics.
Financially supporting the company is just the byproduct.

The other buys supporter packs “to support the company”…
then resents the company for succeeding.

These are not the same.


Yup my bad supporting the company with the game I love (Path of Exile ONE) through the thing that is literally called "Supporter Pack".

Just so that they can take that money to make another game that barely resembles Path of Exile ONE.

It's simply a betrayal to me and many other people like me. Simple as.

How hard is it for you to understand that, they took millions and millions of revenue from PoE1 supporters, funnel them to PoE2 (Now plays nothing like PoE1), while leaving us with a 11 month league, 2 half-baked league. Not even mention league quality have not been up to standard for year?

1. "Meaningful Combat" Is Anti-ARPG: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3884793
2. Mechanical Skill (Dodgeroll) and Intellectual Skill: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3883605
3. Some PoE2 Numbers and Charts: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3896886
Last edited by nagisanzeninzz#2697 on Dec 24, 2025, 4:55:21 AM

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