Player based will leave and this game will die out if they don't remove the XP Penalty

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

You know, THAT'S the kind of ppl nobody likes around. You not only voice something you would like to be changed - you demand it in exchange for your "niceness" and/or reason to play the game.

Imagine you develop your own game. Your "vision", your mechanics, your play style, your difficulty, the time investment required, your challenges and so on, but THEN ppl want it to change because they don't like it - while you do.

Not all, not half, not most - only a few.
All the years you came up with your "vision" and stayed true to it, all the work you put in to make it the way you want.
You wanted to create a deep, complex and sweaty game for even more sweaty gamers, but now you encounter ppl who want your vision to change.

Would you change your vision for a few others instead of fulfilling your vision?
For what? Money? Sure. Money is great, but if you have enough to keep going there is no pressure to obey.
For a bigger player base? Sure. But if your player base is already good (working economy for example) you don't NEED more. HAVING more is great, but you already fulfilled the NEED.
For non-sweaty gamers? Sure. Not everyone wants to 24/7 a game, but the game you wanted to make was for the sweatiest of the sweatiest. A game made for you and them, something you don't find often these days.

What would you do? What would you think?
Would you change your game for ppl who appear not interested enough in your game to deal with the thing they want to be changed?
When do you stop to change things - if you cater to "their" needs?

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SpankyKong#9805 wrote:

The devs deserve to know where their customers draw the line. I totally respect if they disagree and want that line somewhere else.

But please stop acting like this is not an early access beta undergoing constant changes and improvements. It's certainly not fooling me.

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SpankyKong#9805 wrote:

The devs deserve to know where their customers draw the line. I totally respect if they disagree and want that line somewhere else.

But please stop acting like this is not an early access beta undergoing constant changes and improvements. It's certainly not fooling me.

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CPTBRUMBL3Z#3146 wrote:

Except the reason people are advocating for a change is because they DO enjoy the game and the severity of the death penalty is an active detriment to their enjoyment. This is money left on the table if GGG chooses to not respect their feedback and consider changes.

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For real, last sentence completely eludes me, in what way is hardcore harmed whatsoever if softcore changes its death penalty? There are games with basically no softcore death penalty whatsoever other than you died that still have hardcore modes. Hardcore is irrelevant in this topic.

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

Listen, for the last time - the devs (GGG) already said, in the past, present and would say it again in the future - THE EXP PANELTY WILL STAY.

That's not a topic they have now idea about, or no data about, or no insight or is something they want to consider - it's done. Set in stone.

If you say "No, no. I respect their decision", but you want it still changed when they told you their decision - that's not respecting them.

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SpankyKong#9805 wrote:

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

Listen, for the last time - the devs (GGG) already said, in the past, present and would say it again in the future - THE EXP PANELTY WILL STAY.

That's not a topic they have now idea about, or no data about, or no insight or is something they want to consider - it's done. Set in stone.

If you say "No, no. I respect their decision", but you want it still changed when they told you their decision - that's not respecting them.

I haven't seen that response from them. Can you help a brother out and show me their statement?

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osperand66#4959 wrote:

You can argue opinions all you like, just go look at the stats for the people playing, considering how little time the game has been out the numbers have dropped severely.

Even GGG in the last few sentences said they needed to get players back. You can find this for yourself, go look.

Get rid of 1 portal per map and fix the endgame mapping system, which sucks, and the game will see lots return. Oh and a map stash tab!!!!

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dwqrf#0717 wrote:

You could also say it's because people don't like summer and the passing of time is stopping them from playing.

It's as relevant.

People aren't going to play a league-based game every single hours of every single days once they already reached their goals in a not even half-finished game.

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outlander19900#0213 wrote:

There is a balance in everything. Things can have the same effect and outcome with or without xp loss. Is a balance issue. For xp loss to stay many things need to change. For xp loss to go maybe only a few things may need to change to be balanced but the current combination of features don't work together and create a terrible experience for most players.

And the players who are ok with it would also be ok with it being more balanced so stop killing the game with combative, troll comments is what I would say to all the early game deffenders.

Let ggg fix it so they can make more money and keep more people engaged.