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Toforto wrote:
Yes such good game design, only the top 0.000000001% who have 10 mirror builds can farm t17s for good rewards by abusing rogue exiles, meanwhile everyone else suffers. Very cool.
This is one of the most out of touch comments I've seen this year. I did possessed rogue exiles in t17 on 4th league day on a budget.
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Posted byToforto#2372on Sep 2, 2024, 4:33:15 PM
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Quite honestly... I dont know what this character is built for.
I wanna say they bought their challenges and thats why their perspective is "10 mirror build huh uh uh uh uh "
Mash the clean
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Posted byMashgesture#2912on Sep 2, 2024, 4:34:05 PM
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So the real issue for you is because some of the top-end strats are in T17s, and because you can't do those on a glass-cannon boss killer, then that's why T17 should be changed?
You can make lots of money in T16s, if you don't let your FOMO get your.
Are there better strats out there? Sure, but there's also better builds to handle those strats.
Don't expect to run meta currency strats, if you're not willing to play the meta builds running them.
Ok, so you want me to just sell all my t17s to random people and only ever buy carries for any challenge related to t17s and just afk while the other person does the map and pay them 5 divines? Is this "the vision"? Sure I can do that all day. I guess the design goal of t17s was to force 90% of the playerbase to avoid them completely, if so then it works as intended. Because if they ever buff enemies in those maps or make the map mods harder again, that's what I'll do just like in necropolis league. The nerfs they did weren't enough.
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Posted byToforto#2372on Sep 2, 2024, 4:36:13 PM
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Mashgesture wrote:
Quite honestly... I dont know what this character is built for.
I wanna say they bought their challenges and thats why their perspective is "10 mirror build huh uh uh uh uh "
It's built for fast mapping and nuking down bosses, I bought any challenge I felt too lazy to do/didn't think I could do myself. Because why would I ever grind for hours when I can just pay 2 divs?
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Posted byToforto#2372on Sep 2, 2024, 4:36:51 PM
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FalkenRaiding wrote:
So the real issue for you is because some of the top-end strats are in T17s, and because you can't do those on a glass-cannon boss killer, then that's why T17 should be changed?
Nailed it.
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FalkenRaiding wrote:
You can make lots of money in T16s, if you don't let your FOMO get your.
+1
Biggest compliments for my crafted items - "bs, they must have been RMT'ed"
I'm disabled, I have rare case of semperduravera, so I can write things that may look rude, but it is because of disability - I'm forced to tell truth using words you may not like.
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Posted byNomancs#6176on Sep 2, 2024, 4:36:59 PM
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Toforto wrote:
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So the real issue for you is because some of the top-end strats are in T17s, and because you can't do those on a glass-cannon boss killer, then that's why T17 should be changed?
You can make lots of money in T16s, if you don't let your FOMO get your.
Are there better strats out there? Sure, but there's also better builds to handle those strats.
Don't expect to run meta currency strats, if you're not willing to play the meta builds running them.
Ok, so you want me to just sell all my t17s to random people and only ever buy carries for any challenge related to t17s and just afk while the other person does the map and pay them 5 divines? Is this "the vision"? Sure I can do that all day. I guess the design goal of t17s was to force 90% of the playerbase to avoid them completely, if so then it works as intended. Because if they ever buff enemies in those maps or make the map mods harder again, that's what I'll do just like in necropolis league. The nerfs they did weren't enough.
I don't want you to do anything.
I'm merely stating that I find your frustration with T17s self-inflicted and that I do not share your oppinions on how they should be changed.
But since you ask me:
I am ok with 40/40 challenges not being achievable on all builds. I do like the idea of having to have either a) a very well rounded character, b) multiple characters with different strengths/weaknesses or c) (for those on trade league) to bridge your character(s) shortcomings with assistance from others.
At the end of the day, you're of course more than welcome to not agree with the direction of T17s, as much as I am welcome to voice my counter argument.
And who knows, maybe we both get a little perspective from a different vantage point. Doesn't have to be black or white.
Also for the Mashgesture guy, no need to get nasty/personal.
It's ok to discuss things on the internet.
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I don't even bother with double regex anymore. I roll maps one at a time for 100%+ scarabs and then eyeball the mods to see if I can tolerate them.
8 mod maps are the new alch and go.
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Posted byzakalwe55#2432on Sep 2, 2024, 4:48:37 PM
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I don't want you to do anything.
I'm merely stating that I find your frustration with T17s self-inflicted and that I do not share your oppinions on how they should be changed.
But since you ask me:
I am ok with 40/40 challenges not being achievable on all builds. I do like the idea of having to have either a) a very well rounded character, b) multiple characters with different strengths/weaknesses or c) (for those on trade league) to bridge your character(s) shortcomings with assistance from others.
At the end of the day, you're of course more than welcome to not agree with the direction of T17s, as much as I am welcome to voice my counter argument.
And who knows, maybe we both get a little perspective from a different vantage point. Doesn't have to be black or white.
Also for the Mashgesture guy, no need to get nasty/personal.
It's ok to discuss things on the internet.
Well I don't think it's self-inflicted, I just think t17s are unfun and rolling them is cancer. I have like 20 mods I need to avoid to even be able to run them without the map being annoying/enemies getting way too tanky because of atlas modifier effect turning 95% more life into 150% or 40% ele res into 70% etc. And stuff like gain less flask charges gets pushed up to 90%+ which basically disables your flasks, same for less recovery rate.
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Posted byToforto#2372on Sep 2, 2024, 4:49:14 PM
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FalkenRaiding wrote:
Also for the Mashgesture guy, no need to get nasty/personal.
It's ok to discuss things on the internet.
That would be true if my response was not representing what they said...
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Yes such good game design, only the top 0.000000001% who have 10 mirror builds can farm t17s for good rewards by abusing rogue exiles, meanwhile everyone else suffers. Very cool.
This person isnt here to discuss, they are here to whine. And then make up excuses as well.
The mention of buying challenges isnt a jab at their skill expression level, but a problem with the game allowing it IN THE FIRST PLACE.
It creates this false narrative of whats needed, as seen by 10 mirrors and top .000000001%; Because rather than having any actual knowledge on the matter, people come up with anything they can to justify their struggles.
Mash the clean Last edited by Mashgesture#2912 on Sep 2, 2024, 4:55:05 PM
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Posted byMashgesture#2912on Sep 2, 2024, 4:52:06 PM
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Mashgesture wrote:
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FalkenRaiding wrote:
Also for the Mashgesture guy, no need to get nasty/personal.
It's ok to discuss things on the internet.
That would be true if my response was not representing what they said...
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Yes such good game design, only the top 0.000000001% who have 10 mirror builds can farm t17s for good rewards by abusing rogue exiles, meanwhile everyone else suffers. Very cool.
This person isnt here to discuss, they are here to whine. And then make up excuses as well.
Elitism at its finest right here
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Posted byToforto#2372on Sep 2, 2024, 4:53:00 PM
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