Auction House Poll
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Auction House w/ One n done...after 7 days no sell then returned to owner...allows anyone buying to get it w/o dealing with whispering some twit through 3rd party apps, that always fail...
Yes, console here...can't buy squat w/ the current system... And because SSF isn't accessible via console currently, we're stuck with shitty drops.. Still using a level 8 bow n quiver as nothing better has dropped, and don't have enough mats to make a f'n thing... YouTube Streams Daily --> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWwC9omdiFyZuI_9Y6c9qbA Last edited by Ken_Koerperich#9407 on Dec 24, 2024, 9:11:42 PM
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Would like that. Having to use third party overlays to make trading even remotely bearable aside from the clunky site itself is just stone-age tech no one needs anymore. It's almost 2025, it's time to evolve a bit more.
My Hideout -> https://hideoutshowcase.com/hideout/show/2881 (PoE1)
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I would trade if there were an AH. I won't because there isn't one.
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" Absolutely. Until then I stay in SSF. " Last Time he ran a poll it didn't go his way and threatened to remove them from his platform. He also didn't abide by his poll. I really hate that he want's to be part of this community, as he brings a massive amount of Toxic garbage and trolls wherever he goes. Last edited by LennyGhoul#7115 on Dec 24, 2024, 10:15:14 PM
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" SSF has the same shitty drops. |
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Reality is that GGG doesn't want you to sell your items. They want it to pile up in your stash so you would buy more tabs for real money to hold all this 1 div junk.
The only explanation for why anyone would ruin their great game with such insufferable design is that they did it on purpose. Somehow someway they're convinced that their profits are directly tied to not having an offline trade and existing of offline trade will ruin their revenue in their mind. They're smart guys, so maybe it's true, they would know better than anyone. So try to find a solution to that, since 12 years of begging to fix the biggest issue of the game clearly didn't achieve it, and another 12 years will not do it either. |
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Their reasoning is trash. There is no player interaction. There is player and BOT interaction for sure.
GGG will change their minds at some point. They did with currency |
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" You don't get it... the way it is right now? Us console players basically ARE in SSF. The vast majority of console players do not have PCs. Some have tablets, but I can attest to the problem of the website and being optimized for mobile (I can't load the site on my tablet, can load all other websites, just nothing to do with POE2 trade). A majority probably DO have phones... but, again, really poorly optimized for mobile, so loading the site on my phone (a model that came out this year), it is extremely clumsy, doesn't fit on the screen very well, badly organized, and more). That leaves the console browsers... which are REALLY BAD. Like, so bad that IF THAT was all that stood between playing the absolute best game that would ever exist... or going without? Quite a few would choose to never play it. We don't have keyboards and mice hooked up. The idea that GGG is so extremely disconnected from the reality of how console players behave, think, play? Very disconcerting. Until there is a fix for this problem, it basically forces console players to play as if in SSF, because the trade site is so difficult to use from the standpoint of a console player. -------- Just more Info -------- Some, a few, are able to use it reasonably well... me being one of them (I have a PC). But, the majority of console players do NOT, and I talk to a LOT of console players... sadly, most also don't access the forums, or a lot of the places GGG might pay attention to - for the same reason as they have issues accessing and using the trade site! So, I, and a few others, are TRYING to get all of you to understand something that should be obvious: around 2/3 of the game's players are on console. Lose them, the game will either die, or get way less support than POE1 (because POE1 still manages to support console players by having an in-game market). That's not a threat, just reality. Whichever game has the most players spending money is the one that gets the most support. Further, GGG's own 'Trade Manifesto' (from 2017) explains why an in-game market needs to not only exist, but be the only form of trading: 1- they want no disparity between players and their characters (in the way of access to trade and gear)? - Well, the way it is now, there is so massive a gulf between PC and Console as there can be. So, a way that balances it out (an in-game market) must be added. 2- they want less abuse, mods, etc? - PC trade has been so rife with all of those things that even the PC players seem to have 'Stockholm Syndrome' from years of it. When asking PC players how to handle trades, they respond things like, "Just keep spamming players in the list for things, eventually someone will respond" and how many? Hundreds. Think about that... On Console? Generally 1 or 2 offers gets accepted. We don't send offers to hundreds. We see exactly what we want, place the offer. If they refuse, we move on or make a better one. Within a few minutes, generally, we have the item. Even though there might be hundreds of that item on the market. On PC, trade site that can be sifted through, sorted, by apps and such, and nada that GGG can do about it. Whispers can be automated further, and game-bots used to handle things from there. The system is almost BUILT to be a playground for those who cheat and abuse it. Console? We don't have keyboard, mouse... typing SUCKS! So, when someone sends us a whisper, "Hi I want to buy [Thingy] in slot [some coordinate system that no one cares about] for [doesn't matter]"? We normally don't respond. IF we do, it's generally, "Sorry mapping, place the order in the market, will check after" or whatever. It's almost impossible to abuse the system, to cheat, automate, etc, the console in-game market. If they tried to use an invasive program like that, it'd set off all kinds of alerts for GGG, immediately taken care of. So, by their OWN manifesto, they need to add an in-game market. But, truly, to do the 100% right thing, they'd need to kill the trade site as well. With the trade site up and running, the PC players will still have those automation, abuser, etc, types screwing with things, price-fixing, and all of what PC has dealt with for years. Worse, because console is now involved through cross-platform, console would get screwed up, too. The only way to fix things and be true to their own requirements is to add the in-game, but take out the trade site, too. |
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" There is a speculation that offline currency trading caused huge drop in MTX selling, since you can no longer fry people's computer with your =†Co$mic Turt1e hide0ut†= and other players don't look at your Wings of Absolute Best Gamer when buying your divine orb anymore. And that's why they did complete 180 on the offline item trading after Settlers. If anything, I expect Tencent desperately trying to come up with a reason to remove currency trading now. |
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" thats at least a step towards the right direction (in my opinion) the current currency exchange makes flipping so easy its insane - prolly making like 15div per hour just by talking to alva between my maps Farming salt on the forums since 2024
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